Comments on: Where have all the GNOME fans gone ?

By: Gene Ruebsamen

Gene Ruebsamen — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:11:43 +0000

Now that Qt is going LGPL, what about some discussion about porting GnomeLibs to Qt for Gnome 3.0. This would unify the Toolkit layer in the desktops going forward. Since there was already a planned break in API/ABI compatability for Gnome 3, I see this as a significant step forward for Gnome.

By: Arun Raghavan

Arun Raghavan — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:48:50 +0000

@Nick: What about gtkmm and gnomemm?

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:34:27 +0000

Interesting post and some of the replies, a little visceral, but fairly accurate. I think that the issue with stagnating technologies and a dislike of doing objects in C seem to be the biggest issues. I have been a long term Gnome user but after learning C++ and developing in it, it just makes GObject based C seem, well, clunky.

I installed KDE4 the other day, with KDevelop I managed to knock up a simple paint program (usually the first thing I do with a new toolkit/language) and was surprised by how much easier it was when compared to Gnome. I dislike the checkbox mania of KDE but QT wins hands down against GTK for development ease/power.

For 3.0 PLEASE make a big thing about doing objects in an object based *language* (C++). Yes, Python does objects, but it is a scripting language, and I find myself wanting to use the languages I love/know rather than the latest and greatest intepreted language.

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By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:22:50 +0000

I’ve been bouncing back and forth (as a user, not a developer) between GNOME and KDE for a while. I’ve done lots of Qt/C++ coding and some Clutter coding, so I am familiar with GLib-style C APIs. I must say that I like Qt/C++ a lot better. I haven’t tried GTKmm, though. Python levels the playing field considerably, but Python has its own set of issues. I think GNOME 3.0 should be taken as an opportunity to do some really innovative things, similar to what KDE did with KDE 4. I’ve been using KDE 4.1 since it was in beta (maybe earlier), and I hate going back to KDE 3. I would love to see GNOME do something similar.

By: Simon

Simon — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:02:37 +0000

As far away from Jeff Waugh and the rest of the pro-Microsoft faction in GNOME as we could get.

GNOME is a Microsoft-sponsored assault on Free Software.

By: Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner

Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:57:24 +0000

@Arafat then ditch XP if you need a working OS. Baring the legal issues with creating content/code using that OS it’s stability after many years is STILL not so great.

Krog has a point. QT is very VERY easy to write. While I like to do thinks in python where QT and GTK are pretty close to being just as easy as the other one, if I was writing in C++ I would probably go for QT.

By: Arangel

Arangel — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:33:46 +0000

Are you considering to pull your post now?

By: rawsausage

rawsausage — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:00:25 +0000

Where did all the brightest go? Macintosh. Like Gnome (values usability high) but it’s more polished and finished, bundled with great software.

By: Clark

Clark — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:22:34 +0000

I still use GNOME exclusively and greatly appreciate it, but I think it must be said that the GNOME community focused on minor UI details for far to long.

Polishing had been much in need and was greatly beneficial for a time, but it started to look like GNOME was going nowhere fast.

Nonetheless, _I_ am _greatly_ excited about some of the ideas I’ve seen proposed for GNOME 3 in the last few weeks.